Thread:Titanollante/@comment-11308450-20140916025943/@comment-691135-20140916205333

As a hub admin, I was asked to step in (and was given bcrat and admin powers), and I put a stop to the drama right away with bans handed out left and right. For the sake of Wikizilla and the Tokupedia Hub as a whole, it HAD to stop.

Then I sat down with Titan, Ang, Lord Vehk (one of the bannees), and Kaijukazilla (sic?) and discerned exactly what was going on, and as agreed this is a brief outline of what's going to happen:

1) Titan is effectively the only active bcrat - Troy is away, and GodzillaIsland doesn't function as one. Titan, to me, should not be doing this alone. He appointed Ang as an admin, and I am temporarily filling in as a 2nd active bcrat. However, as a hub admin I have a bunch of my own wikis to run. So I stated that the community should nominate a couple people and hold an election to select at least one more admin/bcrat so that I can return to my hub duties. I was of the belief this would start happening today.

2) Titan did go overboard a bit with his powers, but not to an extent I would call abusive. Any objection to his behavior was not, as I see it, communicated effectively to him - rather, it was retaliated against which does not help matters. Titan has agreed to be more careful, and I made it clear that those who have opposed him also need to clean up their behavior similarly. There is a Chat Room Policy on Wikizilla, and it should be followed by everybody.

3) A lot, if not all, of this problem could have been avoided with more and better communication. Things tossed around like "But you are moving the Wiki off Wiki" and such - no, he isn't. He's discussing the IDEA of it, nothing has been decided on. His reasons for considering such a move, if it happens at all, are very reasonable - intrusive ads on the website, and more freedom to configure Wikizilla as he wishes in order to create a better experience for everyone. Personally, I know of at least 2 BIG wikis that left Wikia for the same or similar reasons. But someone saw the discussion and assumed that it was a matter of time before Wikizilla made such a move and thus it was fact when it wasn;t. Does no one ASK about such things if they do not understand? If I had been told that, while being a regular user, I would have gone to Titan and said something like 'Yo Titan, what's this about a move? What's it all about?'. Many times admins do stuff like this, and discuss stuff like this, without it being apparent what they are trying to do. Had someone asked, rather than assumed, a lot of this wouldn't have happened.

The last big point I can recall mentioned was my own involvement. Yes, I am an admin and bcrat on Wikizilla now. However, Wikizilla is NOT my wiki so I will not be using my powers unless I am asked to step in. Titan, for now anyway, is still the admin and as much as anyone may dislike him or dislike how he does things he is still the boss here. Wikia is not going to remove him as bcrat because x number of people reported him. He is also human, he can and will make mistakes like anyone else. So no matter how much someone may not like him or how he does things, he is still the boss and that doesn't change anything.

Also keep in mind that other changes will be made (we did not go into specifics), and Titan and I have agreed that the community will have input into the planning. We cannot promise that the community will like everything Titan decides to do, but I told him the community must at least be heard. If the community expects better from Titan, they should be prepared to be better TO Tian as well.

It is my hope that my role as admin and bcrat will be a short one, and that I can go back to stepping in when asked.