Board Thread:Monster Discussions/@comment-10992179-20130628021244/@comment-24572700-20140226202139

Stephan222 wrote: Obscuricon wrote: Honestly, if MG1 (at 50m) and Kiryu (at 60m) went up against MG2 (120m), size wins.

If all were the same size, though, I think MG1 would take it. It's practically an automaton, which, when considering its victories, is saying something. I'll admit its armor is probably the weakest, but while the stats on paper are one thing, track record is another: MG1 beat Anguirus, then Godzilla, and would have beaten King Seesar if Godzilla hadn't intervened. Even then, it had practically limitless firepower, could pierce Godzilla's hide, could fly fast enough to hit Godzilla before he could dodge, and could fight enemies on multiple fronts. It took two monsters to finally destroy it.

MG2 (1993) has a formidable array of weapons, but ultimately couldn't beat Godzilla in their first battle. It, or rather the crew, was only capable of defeating him after discovering his second brain and combining with Garuda. Even then, MG's weapons require a cooldown period after firing, and it's prone to shorting out.

Kiryu has some devastating weapons too, but it's just not as fast as MG1. It wasn't able to decisively beat Godzilla in a one-on-one fight either, only scoring victories due to human tactics rather than its autonomous ability. Those "victories" were kind of hollow, too: the first one was essentially a stalemate and was only successful in that Japan was safe. The second transformed Kiryu into the world's biggest paperweight, so I'm not sure if that even counts as a mark in Kiryu's favor.

I think MG1 would fly rings around MG2 (whose commander has to give the order for it to "Turn! Face Godzllia!") and probably pepper it with attacks until finally landing for a massive weapons unloading. Kiryu might be able to pull off a win if it can get a few well-placed shots in, but it'll have to survive MG1's barrages first.. If Kiryu goes berserk I think it has no chance.

My bet's on Showa MG1 If you watch Kiryu fly again... he's the fastest. Also, Kiryu did score a victory without human tactics in Tokyo S.O.S, technically (Non-fatal against Godzilla, but it's still a victory). And I still stand by that even without going berserk, Kiryu's going to be gunned down, even if he's the fastest in flight (then again, Kiryu rarely even flies on it's own power). He's going up against G-Force Mechagodzilla, the immovable mecha with a penchant for not letting it's foes up (or letting up on it's foes) and the absolute spam that Space Monkey Mechagodzilla loves to throw everywhere. He's going to go down pretty damn fast, especially if the G-Force MechaG happens to get time to combine with Garuda to form Super Mechagodzilla. Space Monkey Robot Godzilla might stand a bit more of a chance (if this were to scale, at least), but the space robot's downfall will be it's own energy weapons as well as G-ForceMG/SMG's Plasma Grenade and other beam weapons, unless SpaceMonkeyBotGodzilla puts up an energy shield beforehand. If it doesn't, then SpaceMonkeyTerminatorBotGodzilla can kiss it's Space Titanium-plated rear goodnight.

Also, I'm pretty sure MG2 handed Godzilla's scaly rear to him for most of the time the two fought; both in the fields and in the city. It was only something outside of the crew's control (Godzilla reversing the Shock Anchor's electricity into the host and frying it's systems or Rodan giving his power to Godzilla, gifting him the Spiral Ray and melting MG's NT-20 armor) that allowed Godzilla to survive his robotic duplicate. Had one of those not happened, I feel confident in saying MG was going to defeat (or kill) Godzilla, unless Godzilla's Plot Armor kicked in.

I still say Heisei Mechagodzilla'll pull out the victor, if only because it's stood up to far more than the other two MG's have; 6 or so Spiral Rays (without the NT-20 armor, no less) as opposed to MechaG Showa, and I don't think Kiryu tanked all that much either; but I can't remember how many Atomic Rays he took besides the one that got him in the face. But since, by Heisei canon, Spiral Rays are stronger than Atomic Rays, this means Mechagodzilla's the strongest foe in the Heisei series (outside of Super Godzilla); and as the saying goes, defense is the best offense. If this were GMK Godzilla VS. Heisei Mechagodzilla, I might have sided with Goji, if only because SokogekiGoji's beam is OP as hell, but here, Heisei Mechagodzilla is going to win 9/10 times. Showa MG has a 1/10 chance and Kiryu is inevitably going to be scrap by the end, so Kiryu really has a .5/10 chance (meaning he'll only win if MonkeyMechagodzilla can best his G-Force counterpart). A Showa Mechagodzilla/Super Mechagodzilla duel might be a visual spectacle (if SMG doesn't immediately turn his Showa rival into a shower of Space Titanium and explosions), but outside of that, I think Heisei MechaG takes it.

But, again, I'm a sucker for the Heisei Mechagodzilla's awesomeness, so take my opinions with a grain of salt. ;)