Board Thread:General Discussions/@comment-30161070-20161112173042/@comment-30161070-20161113133946

DeltaSquad5 wrote: To start the disscusion off, Here are some of mine:

- Legendary fanboys: I do like some of Legendary's work, although I'm not a 'fanboy'.

- The cult of Bagan: I like Bagan, but what do you mean by cult?

- Everything always  turning into a Toho vs Legendary debate: Not seen that yet.

- TohoKingdom: I like Tohokingdom - it served as a good source of information for me before I discovered Wikizilla and I still pop over there from time to time.

'''- Kaijuzilla261 and other people who were incredibly negative towards Shin Godzilla before it's release. This also ties into Legendary fanboys:''' Again, something I've not seen.

- Mixing with other fandoms, it never ends well: Are you talking about crossovers?

- The Brigde: What's this?

- Crossovers that people think are good ideas, but are just overused in fanfics (Pacific Rim, Jurassic Park, etc): I've seen a few but it doesn't bother me. Besides, I've had a few ideas for crossovers in the past: http://godzilla.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:147049

'''- Did I mention Bagan? '''Yes you did.

- Monster Island Bddies ripoffs: What do you mean?

- Godzilla Neo/ ripoffs of Godzilla Neo: Er, that seems a bit contradictory; saying you don't like Godzilla Neo but then also not liking the 'rip-offs'. Also, what about it don't you like - the artwork? the stories? something else?

- Godzilla vs Koopzilla/relating material/ effects on the fandom: Yeah, I've heard of the fan film and its sequels. Not seen it, though.

- Bagan cancer: I think that's a bit over the top.

- ShinGoji haters: Everyone is entitled to their opinion. As for me, I do like ShinGoji - both for his design and his powers.

- People who are STILL whining about Zilla: Trust me, some people will whine for eternity about things that upset/anger them, although I agree that the whining about Zilla needs to stop.

- People who act like a Death Battle means/decides anything (this goes for ALL fandoms): I enjoy reading through some of the discussions on those, as long as they don't devolve into petty squabbling.

- The "Godzilla can beat everyone"/ "Godzilla vs All" people: Yeah, if Godzilla went up against everybody on his own then he would lose.

- People who still believe in misconceptions that have been proven wrong time and time agian (The "Mechagodzilla 2" name conreversty, Godzilla vs the Devil, Godzilla is invincible, etc): Yeah, I will admit I made the "Godzilla vs. the Devil" mistake a short while back before been made aware of it.

- People who think Minya is G14 or G16: Who thinks that?!

- M.U.T.O fans: I actually like the M.U.T.O's - in appearance, they seem to be a combination of several insect species while still appearing somewhat unique. They even get a lot of the traits right in the film; the mating call, the female been bigger than the male, the female waiting until the male matures before hatching, the male giving the female a gift to show his worthiness to be her mate and the male having ornamental features (in this case, wings). I know some people compare them to Clover but you could honestly compare several monsters to others and then come to the same conclusion.

- Weeaboos (I blame the anime movie) / Otakus (I once again blame the anime movie, along with the Evangelion thing): Makes me think of this: http://65.media.tumblr.com/fb3a22dd2d90d9323a74303159e5e21b/tumblr_mg0dwfDP9c1qzr3igo1_500.jpg

- Bad fan art: Well, some people are fans of things and want to show it, regardless of their art ability. I'm a rubbish artist but that hasn't stopped me attempting to draw Godzilla or characters from stuff I've liked in the past.

- Bad fanfics (some of which you can find in threads on this wiki): Just imagination at work in my opinion - I've done similar stuff in the past and recently: http://godzilla.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:147405, http://godzilla.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:DeltaSquad5/Destroy_All_Monsters_(Alternative_Version) , http://godzilla.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:DeltaSquad5/Kaiju_movies_you_want_to_change...

- Crossovers that should never happen (powerpuff girls, MLP, FNAF, etc ): Yeah, I agree with some of them.

- Original fan characters: I don't see anything wrong with that.

- The people who hate on other Kaiju/toku franchieses because they like Godzilla more: Yeah, I've seen some of that.

- Idoits/children: I have a certain tolerance for them, although how long I'm tolerant for depends on the situation.

- People who can't take opinoins: Seen plenty of people like that, unfortunately - although the majority of conversations with such people are on other subjects.

- People who can't take critisism: Yeah, seen plenty of people like that as well.

- The people who are bound to get offended by my list: I'm not offended - I just disagree with some of it. I find your respones very humorus. Thanks for the laughs. Now to answer your questions:

-By "Legendary fanboys" I mean people who think Legendary is doing everything right and Toho is doing everything wrong.

-"Cult of Bagan" refers to the people that glorify Bagan as the ultimate monster and believe him to be much more powerful than he actually is.

-The "Toho vs Legendary" thing is much more common on Youtube than it is here, thus explaining why you might not have heard of it. The dabate also goes by the more well-known name of "Shin Godzilla vs Godzilla 2014"

-I'll admit, I still check out TohoKingdom every know and then, but they're nutorious for spreading false information and b***hing about SHMA all the time. Among other things, such as spreadin the Bagan hype.

-The "Kaijuzilla261" thing is also mostly seen on Youtube.

-Yes, I meant crossovers. I went further into it later with the "crossovers that should never happen" point.

-"The Birgde" is this stupid MLP/Godzilla crossover that takes itself WAY too seriously.

-Some of these crossovers don't much bother me either. But we've all seen Godzilla/Pacific Rim done to death. And honestly, I don't understand the Jurrassic Park thing. Yes, The I-Rex somewhat counts as a Kaiju, but other than that I don't see any connection.

-"Monster Island Buddies ripoffs" refer to the unummerable medicore to downright terrible Godzilla shows on Youtube. Many of them directly steal from MIB, and have no originality whatsover. The only good ones I've been able to find are G&G, and the Godzilla Gang (the first two seasons, after that it just started getting pretencious.)

-I dislike Godzilla Neo on pretty much every level. And unfortunatley, it has affected the Deviantart portion of the Godzilla fandom in a big way, thus cresting ripoffs. The designs to me are  and generic. This series probably started the trend of "Take a T-Rex, put some Godzilla spines on it, and call it a redesign". The story-telling is also bad, coming off as bad fanfiction sometimes. Godzilla Neo also caused various widespread misconeptions about the origins and visual appearence of various Kaiju. Orochi (as well the Kaiju the series claimed are spawned from him), The Godzilla Trading Battle original Kajiu, Gigamoth, Super Godzilla, Bagan, and "Ghost Godzilla" in particular come to mind. Oh yeah, and Godzilla Neo is the reason people think the GMK Godzilla is Ghost Godzilla

-I dislike "Godzilla vs Koopzilla" in both concept and execution. Godzilla fighting Bowser is a pretty stupid idea in my eyes. Especially after seeing the fan film. The biggest problem with it is of course (spoilers) tha BOWSER BEATS GODZILLA. HOW? WHY? Seriously, that really grinds my gears.

-"ShinGoji haters" is more of a continuation of my point about people who mindelssely hated on the movie before it's realese. While also, (of course) praising G14.

-"M.U.T.O fans" refers to the people that for some reason see the M.U.T.Os  as Godilla's ultimate enemy, and believe that any further Kaiju in the Legendary series needs to somehow be derived from them. I personally find the M.U.T.Os Generic and lame. They don't even get a proper name! Just an acronym that can easily be applied to any Kaiju.

-Original fan characters are a problem because most of the time they are quite unorignal. Most of the time, they are just Kaiju versions of various animals, or variants of existing Kaiju. Stuff like "Albino Godzilla" or Kaiju versions of Jurassic Park/World dinsoaurs.

Hopefully, I answered all of your questions. Glad we could have a healthy disscusion about the fandom.