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Ultrakaiju3000 wrote: Ninjas on Fire wrote:

Ultrakaiju3000 wrote:

DrGodzilla120 wrote: Ultrakaiju3000 wrote: Titanollante wrote: Ultrakaiju3000 wrote: Titanollante wrote: Ultrakaiju3000 wrote: Titanollante wrote: Ultrakaiju3000 wrote: Bioniclezilla76 wrote:

HeiseiMekaG wrote:

Titanollante wrote: Thunderstudent wrote: Can someone please tell me where it says Gigan's hooks are poisonous?, So far I can't find anything about that. Ultrakaiju gave this link, which could or could not be 100% true... http://www.tohokingdom.com/articles/images/an_gigan_showa_cutaway92.html I'm not sure if the translation's all that accurate, because in no movie I remember were Showa Gigan's hooks venomous at all. Deadly venom, as stated there, would imply that Goji would have been dead by the end of VS. Gigan, let alone around for Vs. Megalon-Terror of Mechagodzilla.

They could cut you up something fierce, but venom? I'm not too sure, especially not in supposedly deadly quantities. But remember. In that scene Godzilla was NEAR death. After getting jabbed in the face, He was hardly able to even stand. I'm pretty shore jetting jabs to the face alone would not cause Godzilla to nearly kill over. Wouldn't there have to be something in Gigan's hooks to cause such an effect ? Actually, Gigan bludgeoning Godzilla would be enough to do that.

That makes sence, but Godzila has comparatively worse things happen to him. Remember in Ghidorah the three headed monster when Rodan carried Godzilla many, many, many, etc meters in the air and dropped him? Godzilla was capable  of getting up like nothing happened to him.

That's because drops from great heights don't affect Godzilla at all. That further supports my statement. If he could handle great drops(considering how gravity pulls harder on heavy things and Godzilla's massive weight) than he should be able to shake off being hit hard on the head with heavy objects(Gigan's hooks) The only way he could possibly have ben so effected by Gigans hooks is if there was some sort of venom to weaken him. That's like saying that a cat should be able to withstand a crowbar to the head just because they can survive huge falls... they're not really related. Yeah, but one, Cats are light weight, compared to Godzilla, who is 20,000 to 60,000 tons, so gravity wont pull the cat down as hard, thus causing a lighter impact than Godzilla. Two, Cats have aerial flight reflexes Which allows them to orient themselves as they fall, thus making them land on their feet, Wile Godzilla(who just falls flat) dose not. Three, Cats have a much less durable skull than Godzilla, so they are more likely to be injured by heavy blows to the head, compared to Godzilla, who has to deal with them almost all the time. Remember in "Godzilla vs King Ghidorah" when Ghidorah(Who weaighed  70,000 tons in this movie,) was stomping  on Godzilla's head. Noticed how Godzilla was not only was capable of getting up like nothing happened, but also was able to continue to fight King Ghidorah with greater force. Also remember in "Godzilla vs Mothra" when his head was set on fire? Notice how he managed to shake it off like nothing happened.

The analogy you brought up is not a very good one(no offence) because both a cat and Godzilla are two different beings and are specialized to endure different punishments. I have to agree on the analogy thing.

But as for Gigan vs Zilla, when Gigan knocked Godzilla down with his claws, even if he has venom, it didn't kill him. And last time I checked, Zilla is pretty fast. He jumped over Godzilla's AB in Final Wars. Gigan might have a harder time trying to even slash the thing.

Anyway, the hit might have just dazed him, so he couldn't get up.

That does make sence, He could of ben dazed, but as i mentioned earlier, he has ben hit on the head MUCH harder with out any effect why would this all of a sudden just cause him to became extereemley week for an extended amount of time.

Back to the Gigan vs Zilla argument. Zilla is fast, i give him that, but knowing Gigan, He would use a surprise attack. Why not just pretend to be knocked out(like he did in Godzilla vs Megalon, or Zone fighter), wait for zilla to either turn his back or come within striking distance, and then just ,WHAM!, strike him hard. If he were capable of knocking down Godzilla down by just hitting him with the side of his hook, than i'm shore he could devastate zilla. Think of "Godzilla vs Megaguirus". Megaguirus was much faster and more agile than Godzilla, thus allowing her to have the upper hand. However Godzilla, using the perfect timing, managed to land a hit, and as you know it, Godzilla gains the upper hand and wins! I see a simular scenario, only this time, the slower monster(Gigan) is not limited to the ground.

Gigan can always use his flight to dodge zilla's attacks. Then he could repedeatly ram into him without giving him a chance to get up or swoop down and cut him with his buzzsaw (like he did "Godzilla vs Gigan").

No Gigan was killed in Zone Fighter, which takes places after Godzilla Vs Megalon I know, but one, Gigan was in a weekend state(Which is why he could not fly, use his buzzsaw and was so little match for Godzilla)  and, also ,Gigan still gave zone fighter an old fashion  A** kicking before he died(even though he was weekend). I'll just share a link to the Zone Fighter and Gigan fight for people.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc8mgc_gigan-in-zone-fighter_shortfilms

Oh and Zone Fighter is very powerful compared to the Showa Kaiju not in his series, he's still weaker than Ultraman