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  • Two monsters enter, one monster leaves – that definitely sounds the case with Godzilla vs. Kong. Getting in on the current popularity of shared universes, Legendary are building the MonsterVerse – a kaiju-focused series that will eventually pit the two most iconic movie monsters of all-time against each other. It kicked off with Godzilla in 2014, expanded with Kong: Skull Island earlier this year and after Godzilla 2 in 2019 will come to a head in Adam Wingard’s 2020 film where the pair finally meet.

    Versus movies bring with them a lot of tricky considerations, not least deciding who’s actually going to win; the filmmakers are realizing generations of schoolyard debates and risk offending massive fanbases if they do it wrong. That’s why even when a character in these team-up movies “wins”, it’s often of a muted victory; Freddy vs. Jason went on the side of the Friday the 13th killer but kept Kruger alive, while Alien vs. Predator had the victorious Yautja fall foul of a chestburster. It doesn’t look like Godzilla vs. Kong will be skirting any middle-ground though.

    Speaking to EW for the release of Netflix’s Death Note, Wingard talked about the outcome of the ‘Zilla v Kong clash and said he wants there to be a clear victor at the end: “I do want there to be a winner. The original film was very fun, but you feel a little let down that the movie doesn’t take a definitive stance. People are still debating now who won in that original movie, you know. So, I do want people to walk away from this film feeling like, Okay, there is a winner.”    As the director alludes to, his film won’t be the first time the two icons have fought on screen. The first case was King Kong vs. Godzilla, a 1962 Japanese film that had the Toho icon take on a gigantic version of the big ape. The film ends with the pair falling into the sea and only Kong emerging but makes it seem very likely the giant lizard also survived. The ending was so weird that an urban myth even sparked up that the ending varied on territory and in Japan Gojira came out on top (it’s not true).

    Wingard’s comments suggest that this time one kaiju will leave victorious, a rather bold move. Of course, it’s a little easier with monsters than it was in the superheroes of Batman v Superman or Captain America: Civil War; the combatants are already antagonistic in some ways and so can be defeated without creating as many problems. Having a proper victor is a strong creative choice that bodes well for the film; versus movies often feel gimmicky, but it appears Wingard is treating the concept seriously.


    As for which monster it’ll be who wins, that’ll likely remain a closely guarded secret. Although given that Kong was the only confirmed survivor of their previous bout, maybe it’s time Godzilla rebalanced the scales.

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    • Godzilla has to win, hes more Populer then Kong and has already lost before, its just more fair for him to win.

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    • S332749589ocdsb wrote:
      Godzilla has to win, hes more Populer then Kong and has already lost before, its just more fair for him to win.

      Kong's last movie did better then Godzilla.

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    • Well, Legendary will have to play this out carefully, as their rights to Godzilla expire that year. But we possibly get a Shin Godzilla sequel in 2021!

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    • Darth0Gonzo wrote:

      S332749589ocdsb wrote:
      Godzilla has to win, hes more Populer then Kong and has already lost before, its just more fair for him to win.

      Kong's last movie did better then Godzilla.

      Only a bit, doesn't change the fact he's still more popular than Kong in General, plus we Godzilla 2 to go so you may never know how much money it could make.

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    • I wonder if they'll bring back the smoking children? LOL

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    • That scene was just so messed up.

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    • Forever Sonic & Godzilla wrote: Well, Legendary will have to play this out carefully, as their rights to Godzilla expire that year. But we possibly get a Shin Godzilla sequel in 2021!

      Oh, plz no. Loved Shin Godzilla but it did not need a sequel. Kinda hoping Toho uses their reboot series as a Millennium type thing, where you get a bunch of unconnected, new film ideas. Wanna see them flex their wings.

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    • Project Predacon wrote:

      Forever Sonic & Godzilla wrote: Well, Legendary will have to play this out carefully, as their rights to Godzilla expire that year. But we possibly get a Shin Godzilla sequel in 2021!

      Oh, plz no. Loved Shin Godzilla but it did not need a sequel. Kinda hoping Toho uses their reboot series as a Millennium type thing, where you get a bunch of unconnected, new film ideas. Wanna see them flex their wings.

      I agree, liked Shin, But shin was A film that, Unlike most films I watch, Doesn't deserve A sequel, It should be it's own solo movie with no continuity, It said what It needed to said.

      As for Forever sonic And godzilla's comment - I agree. Nothing more to add. Besides the shin godzilla sequel, An sequel to shin godzilla sounds awful.

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    • What about the tail?

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    • Forever Sonic & Godzilla wrote:
      What about the tail?

      What about it? Are you saying you want it to be explained in a future sequel?

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    • Exactly. That's the main reason I want a sequel. So we could know what's happening to Shin and what those humanoids are.

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    • Forever Sonic & Godzilla wrote: Exactly. That's the main reason I want a sequel. So we could know what's happening to Shin and what those humanoids are.

      Shin was frozen. The humanoids, had they formed and escaped fully, would've been his fifth form. We don't know what he would've done past that, though. IMO, there doesn't need to be explanation.

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    • So Kong is going to wiin then right?

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    • No. Most likely Godzilla. Besides, Kong won in 1962. Godzilla should win in 2020.

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    • Forever Sonic & Godzilla wrote:
      No. Most likely Godzilla. Besides, Kong won in 1962. Godzilla should win in 2020.

      DUH!!! The director said he likes Godzilla more then Kong so it makes sense for Godzilla to win, you do make your faviotie kaiju win after all.

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    • S332749589ocdsb wrote:
      Forever Sonic & Godzilla wrote:
      No. Most likely Godzilla. Besides, Kong won in 1962. Godzilla should win in 2020.
      DUH!!! The director said he likes Godzilla more then Kong so it makes sense for Godzilla to win, you do make your faviotie kaiju win after all.

      That could be a way of tricking us into thinking Godzilla will win.

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    • Darth0Gonzo wrote:
      S332749589ocdsb wrote:
      Forever Sonic & Godzilla wrote:
      No. Most likely Godzilla. Besides, Kong won in 1962. Godzilla should win in 2020.
      DUH!!! The director said he likes Godzilla more then Kong so it makes sense for Godzilla to win, you do make your faviotie kaiju win after all.
      That could be a way of tricking us into thinking Godzilla will win.

      Yeah, Honestly, I think it sounds suspicious.

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    • Darth0Gonzo wrote:

      S332749589ocdsb wrote:
      Forever Sonic & Godzilla wrote:
      No. Most likely Godzilla. Besides, Kong won in 1962. Godzilla should win in 2020.
      DUH!!! The director said he likes Godzilla more then Kong so it makes sense for Godzilla to win, you do make your faviotie kaiju win after all.

      That could be a way of tricking us into thinking Godzilla will win.

      No he was serious about that.

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    • Gojiratheking wrote:

      Darth0Gonzo wrote:
      S332749589ocdsb wrote:
      Forever Sonic & Godzilla wrote:
      No. Most likely Godzilla. Besides, Kong won in 1962. Godzilla should win in 2020.
      DUH!!! The director said he likes Godzilla more then Kong so it makes sense for Godzilla to win, you do make your faviotie kaiju win after all.
      That could be a way of tricking us into thinking Godzilla will win.

      Yeah, Honestly, I think it sounds suspicious.

      No it doesn't.

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    • Why would we wait until 2020 just to have Godzilla get his butt kicked by Kong again? Whatever the reason I'm not watching it until I know for sure that doesn't happen. If it does, I'm not watching it, period. 

      1. TeamGodzilla4ever
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    • Eric Samuel Olson wrote:
      Why would we wait until 2020 just to have Godzilla get his butt kicked by Kong again? Whatever the reason I'm not watching it until I know for sure that doesn't happen. If it does, I'm not watching it, period. 
      1. TeamGodzilla4ever

      1. TeamEdward4ever

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    • AngilasFanatic1234 wrote:
      Eric Samuel Olson wrote:
      Why would we wait until 2020 just to have Godzilla get his butt kicked by Kong again? Whatever the reason I'm not watching it until I know for sure that doesn't happen. If it does, I'm not watching it, period. 
      1. TeamGodzilla4ever
      1. TeamEdward4ever

      TeamEdward4ever <3

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    • TeamEdward4ever?

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    • Oh, I don't watch Twilight, that's why I didn't get it.

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    • AngilasFanatic1234 wrote:
      Eric Samuel Olson wrote:
      Why would we wait until 2020 just to have Godzilla get his butt kicked by Kong again? Whatever the reason I'm not watching it until I know for sure that doesn't happen. If it does, I'm not watching it, period. 
      1. TeamGodzilla4ever
      1. TeamEdward4ever

      Yeah, Sorry for referencing Twilight.  

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    • It's fine. We all go a little off-topic sometimes.

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    • Forever Sonic & Godzilla wrote:
      Oh, I don't watch Twilight, that's why I didn't get it.

      Then There's hope for The World after all. (In other words, You're better off NOT watching it). 

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    • Yeah, it wouldn't appeal to me.

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    • So Gamera is going to win?

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    • Gamera isn't in this film. However, I do wish Gamera would come back one day.

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    • Forever Sonic & Godzilla wrote:
      Gamera isn't in this film. However, I do wish Gamera would come back one day.

      That we know of at the moment he could be in it. Also if they don't change the deal with Toho for Godzilla this would be the last Godzilla movie in the MonsterVerse.

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    • Random question but should Gamera & Mighty Joe Young be added to the MonsterVerse?

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    • Gamera would be pretty cool in the Monsterverse. Joe Young is basically a Kong ripoff. But there could a Easter egg for Mighty Joe Young.

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    • Mighty Joe Young can't be a ripoff seeing as it was made by RKO as well.

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    • Darth0Gonzo wrote:
      Mighty Joe Young can't be a ripoff seeing as it was made by RKO as well.
      RKO you say? 
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    • Legendary should keep making more Kong films, and reboot the V-Rex. And add some dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures such as:

      Stegosaurus

      Apatosaurus

      Deinosuchus

      Toxodon

      2 Legged Lizard

      T-Rex

      Allosaurus

      Elasmosaurus

      Pteranodon

      Teratornis

      Rhamphorhyncus

      Archaeopteryx

      Arsinoitherium

      Styracosaurus

      Gigantophis

      Cynognathus

      Eryops

      Giant Crab

      Giant Spider

      Tentacle bug

      Triceratops

      Giant Cave Bear

      Cave serpent

      Terapusmordax

      Venatosaurus

      Foetodon

      Ferrucutus

      Nothosaurus

      Tanystropheus

      Dimetrodon

      Giant Centipede

      Ceratosaurus

      Diplodocus

      Woolly Mammoth

      Sabertooth Tiger

      Terror birds (Gastornis, Titanis, Phorphoracus)

      Brachiosaurus

      Trachodon

      Agathaumas

      Velociraptor

      Spinosaurus

      Dilophosaurus

      Giant Octopus

      Weta Rex

      Man eating plant

      Giant Millipede

      Brontosaurus baxteri

      etc.

      Legendary Pictures will have to buy the rights to use these creatures.

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    • Actually, for Terror birds I meant to say Phorushacos.

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    • Darth0Gonzo wrote:

      Forever Sonic & Godzilla wrote:
      Gamera isn't in this film. However, I do wish Gamera would come back one day.

      That we know of at the moment he could be in it. Also if they don't change the deal with Toho for Godzilla this would be the last Godzilla movie in the MonsterVerse.

      The company that created the monsterverse doesn't have the rights to gamera, As gamera's not owned by toho.

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    • Gojiratheking wrote:

      Darth0Gonzo wrote:

      Forever Sonic & Godzilla wrote:
      Gamera isn't in this film. However, I do wish Gamera would come back one day.
      That we know of at the moment he could be in it. Also if they don't change the deal with Toho for Godzilla this would be the last Godzilla movie in the MonsterVerse.
      The company that created the monsterverse doesn't have the rights to gamera, As gamera's not owned by toho.

      Well Gamera and Godzilla are in a video game together.

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    • Kenny Redman wrote: Legendary should keep making more Kong films, and reboot the V-Rex. And add some dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures such as:

      Stegosaurus

      Apatosaurus

      Deinosuchus

      Toxodon

      2 Legged Lizard

      T-Rex

      Allosaurus

      Elasmosaurus

      Pteranodon

      Teratornis

      Rhamphorhyncus

      Archaeopteryx

      Arsinoitherium

      Styracosaurus

      Gigantophis

      Cynognathus

      Eryops

      Giant Crab

      Giant Spider

      Tentacle bug

      Triceratops

      Giant Cave Bear

      Cave serpent

      Terapusmordax

      Venatosaurus

      Foetodon

      Ferrucutus

      Nothosaurus

      Tanystropheus

      Dimetrodon

      Giant Centipede

      Ceratosaurus

      Diplodocus

      Woolly Mammoth

      Sabertooth Tiger

      Terror birds (Gastornis, Titanis, Phorphoracus)

      Brachiosaurus

      Trachodon

      Agathaumas

      Velociraptor

      Spinosaurus

      Dilophosaurus

      Giant Octopus

      Weta Rex

      Man eating plant

      Giant Millipede

      Brontosaurus baxteri

      etc.

      Legendary Pictures will have to buy the rights to use these creatures.

      Thats a shit load of creatures.

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    • Darth0Gonzo wrote:

      Gojiratheking wrote:

      Darth0Gonzo wrote:

      Forever Sonic & Godzilla wrote:
      Gamera isn't in this film. However, I do wish Gamera would come back one day.
      That we know of at the moment he could be in it. Also if they don't change the deal with Toho for Godzilla this would be the last Godzilla movie in the MonsterVerse.
      The company that created the monsterverse doesn't have the rights to gamera, As gamera's not owned by toho.

      Well Gamera and Godzilla are in a video game together.

      You mean that godzilla unleashed rumor from the 2000s? Also, Two monsters (Gamera and godzilla) being In A Video game together DOESN'T automatically mean the company that makes the monsterverse also has the rights to gamera. Gamera is owned by daiei, They'd need to go to that company and set up A deal to get the rights to gamera. TL;DR:That isn't how that works in the world of business. Just because gamera "Is" In A game with godzilla, doesn't mean they automatically can use gamera. That'd be copyright violation. They didn't get to use godzilla kaiju in the monsterverse for free. You didn't even bother citing where gamera was with godzilla in A Video game. I'm sorry for the essay, monobook's editor on forums isn't all that great.

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    • Gojiratheking wrote:

      Darth0Gonzo wrote:


      Gojiratheking wrote:

      Darth0Gonzo wrote:


      Forever Sonic & Godzilla wrote:
      Gamera isn't in this film. However, I do wish Gamera would come back one day.
      That we know of at the moment he could be in it. Also if they don't change the deal with Toho for Godzilla this would be the last Godzilla movie in the MonsterVerse.
      The company that created the monsterverse doesn't have the rights to gamera, As gamera's not owned by toho.
      Well Gamera and Godzilla are in a video game together.
      You mean that godzilla unleashed rumor from the 2000s?

      Also, Two monsters (Gamera and godzilla) being In A Video game together DOESN'T automatically mean the company that makes the monsterverse also has the rights to gamera. Gamera is owned by daiei, They'd need to go to that company and set up A deal to get the rights to gamera. TL;DR:That isn't how that works in the world of business. Just because gamera "Is" In A game with godzilla, doesn't mean they automatically can use gamera. That'd be copyright violation. They didn't get to use godzilla kaiju in the monsterverse for free. You didn't even bother citing where gamera was with godzilla in A Video game. I'm sorry for the essay, monobook's editor on forums isn't all that great.

      No I mean the City Shrouded in Shadow game that's coming out this year.

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    • Godzilla will kick kong ass

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    • Yep Yep.

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    • Primates are smarter than reptiles.

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    • Kenny Redman wrote:
      Primates are smarter than reptiles. 

      Not this one, cause While fighting the MUTOs during the events of Godzilla, Godzilla figures out their strengths and weaknesses through repeated clashes with them. He lets the male MUTO fly to attack him, and he then used his tail to slam him into a building, killing him. With the female MUTO, he fired his atomic breath right into her mouth after forcing it open, making her neck explode, and decapitating her.

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    • In other words, Godzilla studies his enemys the more he fights them, so once he fights Kong he gonna know how to kick his ass, sure Kong is smart too, but im just saying Godzilla is on Kongs level of Brains.

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    • S332749589ocdsb wrote:
      In other words, Godzilla studies his enemys the more he fights them, so once he fights Kong he gonna know how to kick his ass, sure Kong is smart too, but im just saying Godzilla is on Kongs level of Brains.

      Legendary has to make more Kong films, and Mechani Kong needs to be rebooted by Legendary. Plus, if Legendary makes more Monsterverse films, Godzilla has to fight Mechagodzilla.

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    • I've been waiting the confirmation of Mecha-G.

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    • Kenny Redman wrote:
      S332749589ocdsb wrote:
      In other words, Godzilla studies his enemys the more he fights them, so once he fights Kong he gonna know how to kick his ass, sure Kong is smart too, but im just saying Godzilla is on Kongs level of Brains.
      Legendary has to make more Kong films, and Mechani Kong needs to be rebooted by Legendary. Plus, if Legendary makes more Monsterverse films, Godzilla has to fight Mechagodzilla.

      Ok? Im not saying Kong has to DIE but im just saying he can be matched by Godzilla.

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    • For me to end the Monsterverse I could just put up Rodan and Mothra film then a Destroy all Monsters remake.

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    • S332749589ocdsb wrote:
      For me to end the Monsterverse I could just put up Rodan and Mothra film then a Destroy all Monsters remake.

      We already got a Destroy all Monsters remake in the form of Final Wars. I will gladly sit here and discuss the similarities between the two if I need to.

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    • What I mean is a LEGIT Destroy all monsters remake, way more silmliar plot and have KING Ghidorah as the main Villain, and even more Monsters and maybe a oirginal alien race trying to take over the earth, and besides it doesn't hurt to have another remake as it would be cool.

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    • Kong is the original giant monster and he won in the original movie according to Toho so he deserves to win! Plus he's smarter! Also Gorillas are an endageded species and PETA will be pissed if he dies! XD

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    • Zrayz10 wrote:
      Also Gorillas are an endageded species and PETA will be pissed if he dies!
      1.            #DicksOutForHarambe
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    • AngilasFanatic1234 wrote:
      Zrayz10 wrote:
      Also Gorillas are an endageded species and PETA will be pissed if he dies!
      1.            #DicksOutForHarambe

      Agreed, I'm Tired of these Fanatics who won't let sleeping animals lie. Plus, PETA kills more animals than your everyday poacher.

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    • Eric Samuel Olson wrote:
      AngilasFanatic1234 wrote:
      Zrayz10 wrote:
      Also Gorillas are an endageded species and PETA will be pissed if he dies!
      1.            #DicksOutForHarambe
      Agreed, I'm Tired of these Fanatics who won't let sleeping animals lie. Plus, PETA kills more animals than your everyday poacher.

      I recently read that specific poaching helps the animals. For example, if some dentist pays 1 million dollas to kill a single lion, they have 1 million more dollars to pay for protecting the lions. I watched this whole thing about it.

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    • There needs to be more MonsterVerse movies after Godzilla vs Kong in the 2020s, and a list of the creatures need to have the rights by producers to be in the film.

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    • Like Jaws, Bambi, & Them!

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    • Darth0Gonzo wrote:
      Like Jaws, Bambi, & Them!

      Them! needs to be a remake of the 1954 film of the same name. And Jaws needs to be directed by Peter Jackson soon. After Jaws, Colin Trevorrow will make Anaconda (remake of the 1997 film). And after Anaconda, Jaws vs Anaconda. As for Bambi, there will be a live action Disney remake.

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    • Kenny Redman wrote:
      Darth0Gonzo wrote:
      Like Jaws, Bambi, & Them!
      Them! needs to be a remake of the 1954 film of the same name. And Jaws needs to be directed by Peter Jackson soon. After Jaws, Colin Trevorrow will make Anaconda (remake of the 1997 film). And after Anaconda, Jaws vs Anaconda. As for Bambi, there will be a live action Disney remake.

      The Bambi book goes into Public Domain in 2022. And I want to see a Godzilla vs Bambi rematch.

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    • Darth0Gonzo wrote:
      Kenny Redman wrote:
      Darth0Gonzo wrote:
      Like Jaws, Bambi, & Them!
      Them! needs to be a remake of the 1954 film of the same name. And Jaws needs to be directed by Peter Jackson soon. After Jaws, Colin Trevorrow will make Anaconda (remake of the 1997 film). And after Anaconda, Jaws vs Anaconda. As for Bambi, there will be a live action Disney remake.
      The Bambi book goes into Public Domain in 2022. And I want to see a Godzilla vs Bambi rematch.

      Do you want Bambi Squashed again? or eaten? XD

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    • Eric Samuel Olson wrote:
      Darth0Gonzo wrote:
      Kenny Redman wrote:
      Darth0Gonzo wrote:
      Like Jaws, Bambi, & Them!
      Them! needs to be a remake of the 1954 film of the same name. And Jaws needs to be directed by Peter Jackson soon. After Jaws, Colin Trevorrow will make Anaconda (remake of the 1997 film). And after Anaconda, Jaws vs Anaconda. As for Bambi, there will be a live action Disney remake.
      The Bambi book goes into Public Domain in 2022. And I want to see a Godzilla vs Bambi rematch.
      Do you want Bambi Squashed again? or eaten? XD

      They would give Bambi kaiju like powers. Also Bambi from the book won't get stepped on.

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    • Darth0Gonzo wrote:
      Eric Samuel Olson wrote:
      Darth0Gonzo wrote:
      Kenny Redman wrote:
      Darth0Gonzo wrote:
      Like Jaws, Bambi, & Them!
      Them! needs to be a remake of the 1954 film of the same name. And Jaws needs to be directed by Peter Jackson soon. After Jaws, Colin Trevorrow will make Anaconda (remake of the 1997 film). And after Anaconda, Jaws vs Anaconda. As for Bambi, there will be a live action Disney remake.
      The Bambi book goes into Public Domain in 2022. And I want to see a Godzilla vs Bambi rematch.
      Do you want Bambi Squashed again? or eaten? XD
      They would give Bambi kaiju like powers. Also Bambi from the book won't get stepped on.

      Kaiju Bambi, now there's an idea.

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    • yes a freaking umbelivable bloddy idea

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    • A kaiju based off of a deer? Very interesting.

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    • Zrayz10 wrote:
      Kong is the original giant monster and he won in the original movie according to Toho so he deserves to win! Plus he's smarter! Also Gorillas are an endageded species and PETA will be pissed if he dies! XD

      So what if he is? Godzillas the one who is more Iconic and well known then Kong is and is the reason why the Kaiju Fandom is even alive, Populer charaters always win, why do you think Batman won,CAUSE HES OVERRATED, GVK isn't going to be a remake of the Original where they put up the same shit, its a REBOOT! its gonna have new/diffrent things in there, so they can make Godzilla win if they want, and I already told why Godzilla is just as smart as Kong, didn't you listen to me? Primats are only smarter in REAL LIFE, but in the Monsterverse thats not the case, Plus its more fair for Godzilla to win anyway as he did lose before, let him get the spot light for once, hes the REAL KING OF THE MONSTERS!!! So you arguement is invailed, Godzilla for the freaking win.

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